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Turpentine
« on: May 18, 2015, 07:47:04 pm »
I've used turpentine all my life for cuts and scrapes. I've been reading about propolis tinctures and wondered if anyone has ever tried propolis in turpentine ? Would it even dissolve?

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Re: Turpentine
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2015, 08:25:32 pm »
Hi Rcannon  :)  I didn't sign up for chemisty in school, but my thoughts are this....  I don't think the healing properties of the propolis would survive the solvent, and would probably dissolve the stickiness of the propolis. Which is one of the reasons that propolis is such a nice medicine in that it has greater healing properties of neo-sporin, plus it's sticky enough to seal up wet wounds.

And according to Wiki, turpentine will turn something organic into..something else, whatever that means  :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine




 
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Re: Turpentine
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2015, 07:59:34 pm »
How do you make your tincture,Jen?

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Re: Turpentine
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2015, 10:01:23 pm »
Hi rcannon  :)

I get my prop down to say the size of cornmeal or coffee grounds, by using a cheap coffee grinder, I'm not sure I can get it finer than that.

I had a hive last year that looked just like the tar image you spoke of, every time I did a hive inspection I would wait until the sun had warmed the hive real good, the prop just scrapes right off like frosting.

You will need:
A hammer
Ziplock baggies - sandwich size or quart size.
Cheap electric coffee grinder from a thrift shop or they are about $10 at Walmart.
A cereal size spoon

This is what you do:

Scrape off all the prop you can from the hive box, or some people use a prop screen. Put it all in a ziplok bag or several ziploc bags. Freeze it overnight. This is where you have to work in smaller batches and work quickly because the prop starts to get room temp and gets real sticky again.

Have the hammer ready. Take one prop zippy out of the freezer, then promptly wack away at the prop in the zippy until it starts to fracture into smaller pieces, it breaks up like ice. If it starts to stick together put it back into the freezer, for about 1/2 hour. Start on another baggie. Keep doing this until the pieces are about the size of a piece of rice. Freeze it again. Always work with it Frozen!

Then put about 1/4 of a cup of the rice size prop into the coffee grinder, and pulse it often scraping the sides often. You may need to detach the coffee bean canister that's holding the prop and put it back into the freezer for a little while.

Now! Once you've got the prop pulsed down the the size of cornmeal, put it into zippy's and keep it frozen until your ready to use it for a project.

PROPOLIS TINCTURE RECIPE

To make a 30% solution of propolis tincture, get small bottles like the ones in the photo. Put your propolis that has been ground down to coffee ground size into the bottle. Fill the bottle 1/3 full of coffee ground size propolis. Then fill up the bottle with Everclear alchohol or high quality vodka. Cap the bottle and let steep for one month. Shake the bottle everyday, IMPORTANT.

It is okay to use your tincture in two weeks, it just won't be quite as strong, more like a 25% solution which is still plenty of medicine.

After it's steeping time is done, you will notice some sediment at the bottom of the bottle. That sediment is just wax from the hive. I leave it in, I don't consider it in the way. However, if you don't care for it, just strain the tincture through cheese cloth, or a cotton kitchen towel, not terry cloth.

http://www.apitherapy.org/about-apitherapy/products-of-the-hive-2/propolis/

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Re: Turpentine
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 08:22:45 pm »
Thanks,Jen. I think I'll try it. I have several hives that make plenty of the raw product. I might as well put it to use.