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I only adopt the tough dogs.
« on: October 18, 2014, 02:46:16 am »



This boy weighs in at 100 lbs.  Was good with dogs and ignored cats at the pound, but at my house, he is a bit more concerned about establishing his pack order. For now he is learning to sit in his crate.  This is going medium well.

Well, count the wire ties and he has popped a couple off.

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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2014, 10:52:43 am »
gypsi, you just adopted this one?  what's the story?
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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2014, 06:00:03 pm »
Me Too, want to know! What's up with the hood? did he come with a surgery or injury?
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2014, 07:31:06 pm »
Clifford the big Red dog weighs 100 lbs even, is probably part Rhodesian Ridgeback and part either doberman or german shepherd or both. He came freshly neutered, shotted, heartworm negative, microchipped and he was in the pound 3 weeks and just a lovely boy, good with all people, all dogs, not cat aggressive.

He was eating that crate.  I went to work for 3 hours today and left him in the main part of the back yard, and my rotti bronx in the pond area, to kind of keep him company without too much contact.  He ate through a 40 amp line that was in insulated flex tubing, the only reason he is alive is it went to the kitchen range I pulled out and I had turned off the breaker.  He also nailed the cable line, which I didn't properly  fix but I have it working again.

Since it would cost more in fines for late sales taxes than it cost to board him 2 nights, he is now boarded til Monday around 4 or 5.  Started him in a regular run, he had to move to a ceiling height run (5 ft cinderblock walls with cattle panel to the ceiling.)  So he tries to go over the gate.  He now has the gate cattle panel, only dog in the whole facility that has one.

I suspect he was raised as an indoor family dog, not crate trained, only out to potty (he is immaculately potty trained not a leg lift one.) then maybe the family moved or gave him away and he got put in a back yard and didn't like it.

My dogs sleep inside at night, are out in the daytime. If I can get a Clifford proof crate I can keep him, but I have to be able to set a firm boundary without constantly patching the crate. And he cannot run loose in my house until I know who he is really.

All of my dogs are death row dogs. I am allergic to every fur bearing animal, decided many years ago no one needs to breed a litter of pups to give me the perfect dog, after I had to give up all my childhood animals, and dreams of becoming a vet in 10th grade. I was 49 years old before I could bring a dog in my house, and having had them in, I would never just keep a dog in the back yard again. They are my security force and my family, and if they are guarding the back yard and I don't hear someone at a front window, well that didn't work out.

The rest of the current rogue's gallery started with Bronx, now age 7, every bit as bad a hooligan as Clifford except he didn't howl. I got Bronx at 18 months, freshly neutered, and my now RIP dog Spike helped me train him, putting a fatherly paw between the 80 lb boy's shoulderblades a time or 2 with a meaningful growl.

I am hoping Bronx will help me train Clifford, particularly since it is Bronx I had a mast cell tumor taken off of on 9/11. The photo is of Bronx as a young dog. Took me 2 years to convince him the rug would be an ok place for him to claim. He also likes the cave under the table now.



Camelo is my first and last SharPei. He has been blessed with better health than most of his breed, is just now experiencing some inflammation in his hocks and feet, I've put him on Glucosamine. He is almost 4 years old, and arrived when Fort Worth was about to euthanize hundreds of dogs, I saw his pic on facebook after a 16 hour computer shift and picked him up the next day.




Cici is a GSD Doberman mix, as near as we can tell. She was on death row about 30 miles away for over a month, over and over I networked her but we couldn't find her an adopter. I picked her up on July 23 2013, by which time she had a case of kennel cough so bad my vet wouldn't give her a rabies shot, and she forgot how to play ball while isolated and on a 4 week course of antibiotics.  She has lived and thrives and is the baby of the family and chews on her brother's faces.




I suspect that Clifford might have had a lot of humans but no other dogs. He socializes well in public and on neutral ground but he seems iffy indoors.  It takes time to learn to share and be a pack member.


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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2014, 11:25:28 pm »
give him some time gypsi, and i know you will. he's in a new environment.  what a great family you have and what an 'angel' you are to take clifford in and give him a home and a great new family..... ;)
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2014, 12:27:45 am »
The Angel is going broke here.  I boarded Clifford last night. His separation anxiety was not all in my head, he took down 2 runs and a makeshift run before they called me this morning to come pick him up.

Picked up a plastic crate from Tractor Supply on the way, and went from doggy daycare to the ER Vet to get his neuter incision repaired and have his nose looked at.  Opening metal cattle crate with your nose can injure it, his double nosebleed was dying down.

I now have a lot of pills including pain meds and the correct dosage for them. Clearing a spot for his crate in my room tonight.  His separation anxiety is expected to clear by Weds or Thurs.  I hope as I really do work for a living and not just sit around all day.

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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 01:08:37 pm »
" I hope as I really do work for a living and not just sit around all day."

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 04:49:39 pm »
I was obviously exhausted if I thought separation anxiety could be cleared by weds or thursday.  Going to add a spot in the back of my truck for his big wire crate so he can stretch out while he watches me work. When he gets sick of riding in the truck, then he will get used to staying home.

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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 05:24:14 pm »
gypsi,
since losing the last critter in our home (no paws on the floor now), i can't bear to go to the pound or animal shelter.  sure tugs at one's heart to go there.
i sure miss the two of them, and i sure miss having the companionship and everything else about an animal that drives us crazy and also makes us happy and them happy.

what we don't do for our animals? right?
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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2014, 05:51:37 pm »
Sounds like you have a smart dog just going to take awhile for you to channel them brains into something productive.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2014, 07:48:00 pm »
No such thing as a free lunch, we started to get that sit and down idea within a day.  He may have already known and just played dumb about the commands, or been so stressed out he forgot them.  But the separation anxiety I've got a velcro dog or a hemmorhoid depending on how I look at it. Velcro comes off, this guy is learning to let me walk out the front door. he only took the bell off the knob. Really big teeth

He is definitely NOT a Rhodesian Ridgeback.  Slow walking hound mixed with a little bit of great dane.  Massive but slow

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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2014, 08:47:34 pm »
LOLOL ~

    I don't know about the others but I would enjoy watching this boy learn his new home, just like riverrats dane Theo! With w..wi..win nn.. (as Scott would say) when it snows, we're going to need something to talk about, might as well be our dogs.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2014, 11:38:14 pm »
Well this morning he walked around the block with Bronx and I. and he laid in the rug behind my chair all day long while my dogs were outdoors, then when they came in I had to crate Camelo (before my little guy got assertive with a much larger dog) and they had dinner, and after dinner he swallowed a 2x3 inch mushy piece of rawhide that is liable to cost one of us some pain, and I crated him before he made matters worse. My dogs are outside right now having their evening potty and possum chase, and Cliff is sleeping in his crate 3 feet from me. If I leave the room he gets anxious, but I am leaving it a little now and then to help him learn I always come back.


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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2014, 12:02:03 am »
them dang lampshades.......... :D :D :D
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2014, 05:32:02 pm »
Lampshades won't get a dog taken back to the pound, but even with xanax and familiarity of a couple of days the inability to refrain from destruction for 10 minutes because I am out of sight, this after dosing with morning xanax, after a good night's sleep and a nice breakfast, so, I am going to try one more thing and take him to work tomorrow, so I hitch him to my chew proof cable between front porch and truck, so I can load his crate. And he is trying to eat the cable and going destructo mode there with me out of sight for 30 seconds.

Only in for about $500, got a tax deductible receipt from the pound for my fees that provided all his vet care when I gave them back the dog.  Someone spoiled the pup and failed to train while he was a trainable size, had him with them 24/7 and never taught him it was ok to be alone, or crated, while he was small.  Then probably gave him away or bought a house with a big yard and put him outside and he was terrified to be alone. 

Pound had had him up front a lot, probably due to his anxiety.  Didn't bother to tell me that.  I have done what I can, kid tested, cat tested, house training tested and ID'd the problem. 

Picked up the pound pup from Prairie Paws that I almost adopted 2 weeks ago but a family was interested in him. Small, good with kids, already neutered and $465 cheaper, lol. I'm done.


Woodstock was on the EU list, and near the top to be euthanized if any more dogs came in. His owner surrendered him at the shelter on August 27, 2014.  Owner surrenders are generally the first to die, but the shelter he was at is one of the best in North Texas at networking pets and getting them adopted, and they avoid EU most of the time. 

North Texas best shelters list for emotionally and mentally stable pets (means employees are good judges of animal behavior and are good to the animals) : Grand Prairie - Prairie Paws and Denton Animal Shelter Foundation

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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2014, 06:06:14 pm »
Snark... you're stories are great  :)

Gypsi, now.. I'm reading that Cliff went back to the pound and you have a new pup?

Who took the xanax, You or Cliff? or both?  :D  xanax definately has it's place in the world  ;)
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2014, 08:35:56 pm »
Cliff took the Xanax.  I'd had him on heavy pain killers for his neuter, his opening neuter incision when he took the boarding facility apart, and his nose which was used in the crime and injured badly. I discontinued the pain killers this morning as all was healing well, just gave him a rimadyl for inflammation, his antibiotics and a doggy xanax. 

He didn't take too much apart when I went out to feed the lot chickens, but when I took 12 minutes to walk my other 2 dogs and left him looking in the screen door into the kitchen, something that went better yesterday, the destruction got warmed up.

When I tied him so I could load his crate things deteriorated.

Maybe 2 xanax would have been better but I live alone, can't afford doggy day care, and can't afford destruction on the scale a 100 lb dog with big teeth can do.

Cliff is the sweetest dog, but fear is a real motivational problem on him, and I couldn't do it.

The dog I picked up on the way home I was supposed to get today anyway, and he is small and sweet enough he'd have fit if I kept Cliff.  But I just needed to take him back.  He loves the pound. They don't keep him in his run, they keep him out front greeting people. Who was he missing in his separation anxiety?  Wasn't me.  His family of origin almost certainly got him a small orange or red squeaky bone when he was a puppy. I noted that was the only toy he would touch at the pound so I bought him an orange squeaky bone on the way to get him on Friday.  I would squeak it and toss it where I wanted him to go, and he would go. I sent it with him, and a good chew bone too. He is still teething. I am sad. I am about to cry. but I will just love my dogs and my little Woodstock surely needed a home. And that will do. Took this photo this morning.  I moved this crate to the foot of my bed for him to sleep in, and in my office in the daytime. He barely fits, no running start to knock the door down with his nose.  Sad, but he felt safe there, I opened the crate door last night and he crawled right in and curled up.


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Re: I only adopt the tough dogs.
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2014, 09:26:33 pm »
Looks like he may have some chesapeake in him with those amber eyes and blunt nose. If that is the case he would be hard to train, chessies are hard headed.

But ya know, I applaud you giving it a try, it just wasn't in the cards  :)
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2014, 10:03:54 pm »
It wasn't, but I made sure the pound wouldn't kill him on return and have sent all the rescue groups in.  $500 is a lot of vetting all taken care of...  They are forewarned what his needs are and a lot of fosters are stay at home moms and have backup for the kids, therefore for the dog.

 (part of the nose bluntness is from using it as a hammer, guessing no nerves in that poor nose)  I looked up chesapeake, and no the color and fur texture and tail are wrong.  Then I looked up hounds, and I don't know how hard it is to train a Plott Hound but his tail and body shape match that one fairly well, mixed with something like Dane maybe.  Or a redbone.  Either way the ears are too small but assuming he is a mix with something with small ears. 

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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2014, 10:08:27 pm »
 :D  A chesapeake is a retriever actually. I have a lab chessie mix and the eyes and nose are soo similar. But like I said they are hard headed. They do love to be trained for hunting and/or bird hunting. But the owner really needs to know that you have to be very patient training them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake_Bay_Retriever
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